Daniel Schmachtenberger: “Bend not Break #3: Sensemaking, Uncertainty, and Purpose”

Episode 31
August 10, 2022

(Conversation Recorded on July 28, 2022.)

On this episode we meet with founding member of The Consilience Project, Daniel Schmachtenberger.

In Part 3 of their series, Schmachtenberger and Hagens explore metanarratives. Why are they threatening to various sections of society?

Further, Schmachtenberger helps us understand how we can take in the systemic meta-crisis facing humanity in ways that grant us agency, rather than despair.

About Daniel Schmachtenberger

Daniel Schmachtenberger is a founding member of The Consilience Project, aimed at improving public sensemaking and dialogue. 

The throughline of his interests has to do with ways of improving the health and development of individuals and society, with a virtuous relationship between the two as a goal.

Towards these ends, he’s had particular interest in the topics of catastrophic and existential risk, civilization and institutional decay and collapse as well as progress, collective action problems, social organization theories, and the relevant domains in philosophy and science.

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00:40 - Daniel Schmachtenberger info + TGS episodes part 1 and part 2

06:30 - Overview of Nate’s story: Animated videos, Economics for the Future - Beyond the Superorganism

11:17 - Evolutionary Psychology

11:43 - How psychology varies across cultures 

12:01 - Varying levels of violence, value of education across cultures

13:04 - Dumb American geography videos

14:30 - How algorithms keep people on social media sites

15:20 - Humans prefer certainty, uncertainty is difficult

16:08 - One Marshmallow/Two Marshmallow experiment

17:01 - Supernormal stimuli

17:50 - People dying of obesity are also dying of nutrient deficiency

21:45 - Sensemaking

24:31 - Chinese model of government

26:07 - Reductionism

27:12 - Iatrogenic 

27:35 - Chronic diseases require understanding the body’s system

30:45 - Orangutans, Indonesia and paper bags

33:20 - Consensus Bias

33:30 - Environmental degradation on indigenous lands and communities

35:27 - David Bohm and J. Krishnamurti

37:15 - Delusion of Consciousness

40:20 - Vedic Bhagavad Gita chapter 2 verse 48

43:38 - Psychedelics and non-ordinary states of consciousness

44:28 - Cognitive Behavioral Therapy - Catastrophizing

49:02 - Doomerism

50:15 - Sometimes ‘cheering up’ makes people feel worse

55:01 - Decentralized technology, tabletop CRISPR

55:39 - Bucky Fuller - egg analogy

58:25 - Discrete Phase Shifts

59:27 - Trolley Problem

1:02:30 - CAFOs

1:03:38 - Diet For a New America

1:06:51 - Marc Gafni

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