Growth Until Not…
Recorded September 8, 2022
Earlier this week there was a livestream debate highlighting the key points of the Green Growth and DeGrowth perspectives - this week's Frankly adds a third perspective to the 'growth critical' conversation - that modern society has a metabolism and momentum and will grow - in non-green ways - until we can't. This is a critical third category that should be included in these discussions, despite its 'tougher sell'.
01:11 - Degrowth/Green Growth Debate
03:45 - GDP is a poor measure for human prosperity
04:06 - Environmental problems wane in priority when the economy is poor
04:48 - Income is the single largest variable the correlates with emissions
06:12 - No gains in efficiency or technology has reduced energy consumption
06:25 - At 2.5% growth, we will grow 10x in a century, 100x in 2 centuries, and 1000x in 3 centuries
07:40 - We are doubling debt every 8.5 years, and doubling GDP every 25 years
09:35 - Climate is just one piece of a multivariate issue
11:07 - The Global North depends on the resources of the Global South
11:25 - There are over 4 million children in the UK living in poverty
12:15 - The price of lithium is up 900% since its scaling
13:18 - Adding renewables is contributing to emissions currently, not reducing them
14:21 - Germany upping coal imports and moving to wood
15:10 - The 1% spend [correction: 17%] of their income, while the bottom 40% spend 105%
17:04 - Klieber’s law and correlation with global energy use/economy
18:42 - Herman Daly Steady State
18:48 - Post-growth movement
