Chuck Watson: "NATO in Ukraine: from Proxy to Participants”

Episode 114
March 15th, 2024

(Conversation recorded on March 12th, 2024)  

Show Summary

On this special episode, risk analyst Chuck Watson returns to discuss the current state of the conflict in Ukraine and the potential for escalation. With the conflict centered around resource control, cultural clashes, and political posturing - will European countries now push to keep the United States involved with the conflict? More, are we seeing the full picture from the perspective of western media? Who is really winning this 'open secret war' and what is the context behind the various realities of the players in this conflict? Are there still peaceful, stable options that maneuver us away from open war and what would those mean for the rest of the world?

About Chuck Watson

Chuck Watson has had a long career in military and intelligence work, with a specialty in natural and human made disaster modeling. He worked for the US Air Force, was an attache to US Ambassadors to the Middle East Robert McFarland, and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld as a Soviet expert. Chuck has worked as an advisor to the military for over four decades with a particular emphasis on big data, open source intelligence, with an emphasis on the Soviet Union and Russia. Chuck is also the founder and Director of Research and Development of Enki Holdings, LLC, which designs computer models for phenomena ranging from tropical cyclones (hurricanes) and other weather phenomena, earthquakes, and tsunamis, as well as anthropogenic hazards such as industrial accidents, terrorism, and weapons of mass destruction.

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Show Notes & Links to Learn More

***Chuck Watson has written some clarifying comments about the casualty figures discussed in this episode, which can be found here.***

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00:00 - Chuck Watson Info, Past Episodes

01:22 - Death toll in Russia/Ukraine

01:42 - Poland and other countries statements about moving into Ukraine

05:59 - Putin State of the Union

06:10 - Ukraine territorial history

07:56 - Resources in Ukraine

08:55 - Russia aiding African countries affected by European colonization, China benefits

10:30 - Political history in Eastern Europe

12:59 - Attempt at peace in Russia/Ukraine and UK’s influence

14:14 - History of colonization and resources in France

15:31 - France and uranium resources

16:40 - Wagner Group

17:23 - French Legionnaires in Russia

19:10 - Civilian opinion of statehood status in Ukraine

19:27 - Oleksandr Syrskyi 

20:00 - Chuck’s clarifying comments on casualty figures (Written 3/16/24)

22:45 - KGB vs SVR

26:12 - 2014 Ukrainian Revolution

27:48 - Auroville

32:27 - Russia buying North Korean artillery

33:23 - Victoria Nuland, John Bass

33:40 - Lindsey Graham, changing position on Ukraine

36:20 - NATO Treaty, Article 5

39:13 - Archduke Ferdinand

39:37 - The U.S. is at war with Russia under international law

40:55 - Governance structure in Russia

41:38 - The current geopolitical state of France

45:20 - Partitioning Ukraine is Russia’s desired outcome

48:32 - Omar Bradley

51:17 - Resources from Russia are still making it to Europe, with a middle man

52:15 - Sanctions being waived

52:51 - Reagan, Trust but Verify

54:01 - Sting - Russians

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